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		<title>Comment on Still trying to see why this is wrong&#8230; by chillipep</title>
		<link>http://chillipep.wordpress.com/2007/02/03/still-trying-to-see-why-this-is-wrong/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>chillipep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 08:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a million!!    The tears of joy in my eyes when I first saw this truth prevented me from seeing that for the case of X approaching 5, it is only valid as X approaches 5 from the right and pushes it over onto its left side!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a million!!    The tears of joy in my eyes when I first saw this truth prevented me from seeing that for the case of X approaching 5, it is only valid as X approaches 5 from the right and pushes it over onto its left side!  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Still trying to see why this is wrong&#8230; by jd2718</title>
		<link>http://chillipep.wordpress.com/2007/02/03/still-trying-to-see-why-this-is-wrong/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>jd2718</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 07:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think only 1-sided limits exist here.... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think only 1-sided limits exist here&#8230;. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Kubuntu Post Install things I did by Dave M.</title>
		<link>http://chillipep.wordpress.com/2007/02/03/kubuntu-post-install-things-i-did/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 05:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, that worked.  I had to copy it as a different file name, as it did not want to overwrite the one in use.  So I did that.  Then, since it came from the different user, the original user did not have permission to use it.  So I used the chown command, change owner, to assign it to me, dwm, the original user.  Then I just swapped the old and new file names, and voila&#039;.

When I looked at my hacked up configuration file, name shown above, I found the reason that there is no backup.  When you use the menu editor in KDE 3.5, what is does is mark all the changes internally in the file.  For example, it marks some things as &#039;delete&#039;, some sections it marks to exclude, and so on.  So if you were careful, you could go back and edit out the revision markups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, that worked.  I had to copy it as a different file name, as it did not want to overwrite the one in use.  So I did that.  Then, since it came from the different user, the original user did not have permission to use it.  So I used the chown command, change owner, to assign it to me, dwm, the original user.  Then I just swapped the old and new file names, and voila&#8217;.</p>
<p>When I looked at my hacked up configuration file, name shown above, I found the reason that there is no backup.  When you use the menu editor in KDE 3.5, what is does is mark all the changes internally in the file.  For example, it marks some things as &#8216;delete&#8217;, some sections it marks to exclude, and so on.  So if you were careful, you could go back and edit out the revision markups.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kubuntu Post Install things I did by Dave M.</title>
		<link>http://chillipep.wordpress.com/2007/02/03/kubuntu-post-install-things-i-did/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 04:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That did not work either.  Will just have to copy the file between users as root.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That did not work either.  Will just have to copy the file between users as root.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kubuntu Post Install things I did by Dave M.</title>
		<link>http://chillipep.wordpress.com/2007/02/03/kubuntu-post-install-things-i-did/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 04:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that did not work!  :(   The web site stripped out all the html-like encoding.  What if you octathorpe it out:

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that did not work!  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />    The web site stripped out all the html-like encoding.  What if you octathorpe it out:</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kubuntu Post Install things I did by Dave M.</title>
		<link>http://chillipep.wordpress.com/2007/02/03/kubuntu-post-install-things-i-did/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 04:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I really screwed up the KDE start menu.  I was trying to make another that would duplicate the action of a drawer in Gnome, and I ended up with a horrible mess.   I can find no backup of the KDE start button, so how to go back?   Or even to find out where it is?

So I did a CTRL-ALT-F2 to get a new terminal, and created a new user using sudo adduser.  Then I gave this new user a password.  Then I went back to the main KDE window with CTRL-ALT-F7.  I was going to log out and log back in as the new user when I stumbled across the menu item that lets me start a new X session as a different user.    So I did that, and logged in as the new user.  Sure enough, there was the start menu the way it should be.   But where was the file in the system that was the config file for this?   To find it, I did a file search on my new user home folder for *ocumentation*, since Documentation is one of the sub-menu headers.  Doing this, I found a small file with this absolute name:
/home/dave/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu

Here are the contents of that file:



 
  
  Development
  Edutainment
  Games
  Graphics
  Internet
  Multimedia
  Office
  Science
  Settingsmenu
  System
  Utilities
  Applications
  
  kde-adept_installer.desktop
  kde-Kfind.desktop
  kde-Help.desktop
  kde-systemsettings.desktop
 
 
  Debian
  
 


You can see that there is not much here, so this must be just a typical linux arrangement where what you see includes the real stuff hidden elsewhere.  For example,   Internet must refer to a complete menu for the Internet applications, and this menu subitem must be somewhre else on the system.   This makes sense, because when a new appication is added, it would not want to have to register with every user of the system, it would only want to sign up once, in a common spot.

Since the file above will include the submenu items by reference, it is not necessary to know where they are.  To reconstruct my original menu, I should only have to copy the above file listing into the same file in my original home applications-kmenuedit.menu file.  Then the contents will be included automatically.  I am putting this here, so I can remember what I did.   Since I have no e-mail set up for this new user I just created for this purpose, I can&#039;t e-mail me the file.  So an easy way to transfer it to the other user is just to paste it here.  Then I will go to the other users desktop, grab it off the net here, and paste it back where my contents are currently terribly broken.  And then it should be magically fixed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I really screwed up the KDE start menu.  I was trying to make another that would duplicate the action of a drawer in Gnome, and I ended up with a horrible mess.   I can find no backup of the KDE start button, so how to go back?   Or even to find out where it is?</p>
<p>So I did a CTRL-ALT-F2 to get a new terminal, and created a new user using sudo adduser.  Then I gave this new user a password.  Then I went back to the main KDE window with CTRL-ALT-F7.  I was going to log out and log back in as the new user when I stumbled across the menu item that lets me start a new X session as a different user.    So I did that, and logged in as the new user.  Sure enough, there was the start menu the way it should be.   But where was the file in the system that was the config file for this?   To find it, I did a file search on my new user home folder for *ocumentation*, since Documentation is one of the sub-menu headers.  Doing this, I found a small file with this absolute name:<br />
/home/dave/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu</p>
<p>Here are the contents of that file:</p>
<p>  Development<br />
  Edutainment<br />
  Games<br />
  Graphics<br />
  Internet<br />
  Multimedia<br />
  Office<br />
  Science<br />
  Settingsmenu<br />
  System<br />
  Utilities<br />
  Applications</p>
<p>  kde-adept_installer.desktop<br />
  kde-Kfind.desktop<br />
  kde-Help.desktop<br />
  kde-systemsettings.desktop</p>
<p>  Debian</p>
<p>You can see that there is not much here, so this must be just a typical linux arrangement where what you see includes the real stuff hidden elsewhere.  For example,   Internet must refer to a complete menu for the Internet applications, and this menu subitem must be somewhre else on the system.   This makes sense, because when a new appication is added, it would not want to have to register with every user of the system, it would only want to sign up once, in a common spot.</p>
<p>Since the file above will include the submenu items by reference, it is not necessary to know where they are.  To reconstruct my original menu, I should only have to copy the above file listing into the same file in my original home applications-kmenuedit.menu file.  Then the contents will be included automatically.  I am putting this here, so I can remember what I did.   Since I have no e-mail set up for this new user I just created for this purpose, I can&#8217;t e-mail me the file.  So an easy way to transfer it to the other user is just to paste it here.  Then I will go to the other users desktop, grab it off the net here, and paste it back where my contents are currently terribly broken.  And then it should be magically fixed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Radical! by jd2718</title>
		<link>http://chillipep.wordpress.com/2007/02/03/radical/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>jd2718</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 13:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the same reason when we see 16/64 that we don&#039;t just cross out the 6&#039;s and get 1/4. Oh. Whoops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the same reason when we see 16/64 that we don&#8217;t just cross out the 6&#8217;s and get 1/4. Oh. Whoops.</p>
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		<title>Comment on An enigma &#8211; grub by Dave</title>
		<link>http://chillipep.wordpress.com/2007/02/03/an-enigma-grub/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 04:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I tried all day to make this work.  Total failure.  Ubuntu will not install with the /boot/grub partition separate from the /boot partition.  Plus I read on the internet that there are a few other problems alsowith moving the partitions or files with grub around.  So I am giving up for now.  Maybe version 2 of grub will be better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I tried all day to make this work.  Total failure.  Ubuntu will not install with the /boot/grub partition separate from the /boot partition.  Plus I read on the internet that there are a few other problems alsowith moving the partitions or files with grub around.  So I am giving up for now.  Maybe version 2 of grub will be better.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lower level page by chillipep</title>
		<link>http://chillipep.wordpress.com/top-menu-page/mid-level-page/lower-level-page/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>chillipep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 04:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm..   Looks like you can&#039;t hide a low level page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm..   Looks like you can&#8217;t hide a low level page.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by chillipep</title>
		<link>http://chillipep.wordpress.com/about/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>chillipep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 00:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I don&#039;t understand.   Maybe this page it not about me, maybe it about my blog or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I don&#8217;t understand.   Maybe this page it not about me, maybe it about my blog or something.</p>
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